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Crowdfunding & The Low-Cost Desktop 3D Printer: A Suicidal Race To The Bottom? (Part 1)

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  1. Craig Billings says:

    AMEN! Someone finally brought to light the reality of a major issue. Crowdfunding vs manufacturing. Two different animals with each its own agenda. I predict KS and many other crowdfunding sites will get bad reviews and bad credibility when the broken promises start overwhelming them. I am all for crowdfunding but only for individuals who truly have an idea or product that needs the backing and have REALISTIC goals. Nowadays KS and the “other” sites have turned into a free for all. We now see established companies using crowdfunding as a marketing scheme and a way to recoup money from R&D. But hey, afterall, KS and the “other” sites are a business as well, right?
    But manufacturing is the elephant in the room. Just because you have a good idea/product does NOT mean that you can successfully reproduce that product in good quality, on TIME, and without bankrupting yourself or others even. I also predict many of these 3d printer “manufacturers” to fall. I do not wish that upon anyone but the buzz of making 3d printers to sell has lured many into a web they are not aware of.
    Only time will tell now. We shall see…

  2. Mike says:

    The Peachy Printer has become a sore example of a KS disappointment – in spite of a hugely successful funding ($651,000). One month before first production models delivery they announced that they will be at least 4 months late and still do not have a viable product!

    1. Craig Billings says:

      Yep. Everyone needs to be prepared to either not get their machine or get it 6-8 months later than promised.

      1. lairdp says:

        When a Kickstarter is doing “research” the way Peachy is, you shouldn’t be surprised by delays, changes in specs, or even outright failure.

        If the Peachy folks had said that everything was done and they just needed money to ramp up production, then the expectations would be different. But given that they said up front that they had a prototype working, but needed to work on the software, redesign to scale up manufacturing, etc., I’m not surprised at all that there are delays. Remember, 90% of R&D projects miss dates or costs (or fail completely), in industry, so if anything Kickstarter of an R&D project by startups should be worse. So it’s best to have low expectations, or you’ll be cranky all the time.

        There are plenty of 3D printers doing real R&D, and driving the real costs down by being clever, such as Peachy and Micro3D. So they genuinely could be that cheap, but there’s associated risk.

        The 3D printers that aren’t really R&D, but are taking a proven design and cranking units out (and there are too many to count) don’t have the risks of real R&D, and so if they “miss” it’s because they didn’t plan well. Fairly often it looks like they underestimated actual costs, because they only accounted for “hard” costs (i.e. parts bought in bulk) and ignored all of the other costs of running a business (rent, staff, taxes, packaging, shipping, support, marketing, QA, etc.). So they end up selling for 1/2 what they need to sell for to run a business.

        Sometimes I suspect that this is intentional. In that case, it’s not really a $299 printer (for example), it’s a $299 Kickstarter bargain, to get early customers will to take the risk of paying in advance for an unproven product from an unproven company, and use that money to launch a company and learn what their real costs are, and then the price will go up to $499 (or whatever it needs to) for “normal” customers. That’s a fine strategy, but they didn’t figure out how to make a cheap printer, they just decided to take a loss to jump start the business with crowdfunding instead of taking investors that take equity.

        1. Craig Billings says:

          You are correct. We have 3 years combined research, 8 months of building and testing, months of beta testing, and thousands of dollars later we have a machine and working on our production system now.

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